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I believe Stretch is the winner!!

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I have asked Shirley to send me the official number of trucks. I am pretty sure we broke the 151 mark. I had 155 and stretch had 152 so it's going to be real close!!! Great show everyone! Wish I could have got around more, but thanks to all of you that stopped by to see me. Knee got a little sore on Saturday from doing too much on Friday so I had to call it quits about 230 in the afternoon. Looking forward to next year already. Stan

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Huskiedrive361 wrote:
I have asked Shirley to send me the official number of trucks. I am pretty sure we broke the 151 mark. I had 155 and stretch had 152 so it's going to be real close!!! Great show everyone! Wish I could have got around more, but thanks to all of you that stopped by to see me. Knee got a little sore on Saturday from doing too much on Friday so I had to call it quits about 230 in the afternoon. Looking forward to next year already. Stan

Stan, if you had 155 I think you won! The total I heard was 154.

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Ok, is that the number of trucks that registered or that were actually in the parade/show? Because I stood at the intersection where the trucks entered Main Street and got a pic of each truck that entered Main Street, and my count was 137 trucks that I took pics of at the intersection (a lot of you probably saw me, I was wearing one of the shirts from the grand opening of the museum that had the hearse on it). There was one truck (Cortland Ready-Mix 359 dump) that got to the intersection and turned right and didn't go down Main Street, I still counted it in the 137 since it was in the parade. Trucks that were there that I didn't include in the parade count was the 1920-something Brockway sitting on the trailer off of Main Street, a 361 dump truck parked on the other end of Main Street near the hardware store, and a 700 series in the CVS parking lot.


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At the time of the ceremonies the number was 154. When I was soliciting entries to be in the Museum for the first year, May 1, 2012 to April 30, 2013, I had a lot of refusals with the reason being that if an individual had only one Brockway, he would not get credit for being on Main Street. At a Board of Directors meeting, I made a motion that if a truck was in the Museum for the year it would be counted as having been on Main Street for the show and counted in any records. The motion was approved unanimously and so the nine trucks in the Museum are added to the 154 for a total of 163.
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Here's the response I got from Shirley -


The official count of registered trucks is 154 - one truck that was registered did not make it
but it was registered so we count it (they paid their money and got their gift bag) and the
owners were in attendance. There was another Brockway on Main St. that we tried to get
the owner to register but he never made it to the table.

So you guys decide what you want as the results of our pool. Main St. or Main St + museum

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Sbrant - did you count the trucks that came in late and were not part of the parade? Paul Pollizzi brought in three and ended up parking on Court ? street, one of the side streets.

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Good Numbers and a great show. There must have been over a million miles driven and 200 loads deliverd or picked up in the Ramada Inn parking lot between 9 PM and 12 midnight. I delivered a few myself.Joe D.


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Shirley and I talked about the number 154 plus 9. Paul's trucks are in that number.


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Stan,
I left shortly after the parade, only had enough time to make one pass down Main Street once the trucks were parked then had to hit the road.
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And the winner is...... Drum Roll please,

BTPA, all of its members and all of us, plus the museum and our fine bunch of volunteers, and the public in general.

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I believe JUNKMANDAN is the closest to the "official"count of 163 with a guess of 162!!!

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Peter posed the question "how many unknown trucks will come out of the woodwork?? and guessed 7. His Hearse and Joe Russo's Beauty were two I can think of. Anybody can add to that??

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There were two that I've never saw before: black mini 361and a blue and red 100 series named "Wanderlust." There was also a silver and black E257 that was from Arizona, I was offered the truck when the owner put it up for sale, then it was listed on this site when I turned it down, and now it ended up at the show. I'd love to have seen what that truck looked like when it rolled out the factory doors, according to what the previous owner told me, the build sheet said that the whole truck was originally painted with Dupont 1957 Chevy turquoise paint. One of the pics the owner at the time sent me showed a piece of the frame rails near the engine that still had the original paint on them. It also had a tag axle, but another previous owner cut that off.


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There was a K361 tractor across from me that was a first timer.

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sbrant358 wrote:
There were two that I've never saw before: black mini 361and a blue and red 100 series named "Wanderlust." There was also a silver and black E257 that was from Arizona, I was offered the truck when the owner put it up for sale, then it was listed on this site when I turned it down, and now it ended up at the show. I'd love to have seen what that truck looked like when it rolled out the factory doors, according to what the previous owner told me, the build sheet said that the whole truck was originally painted with Dupont 1957 Chevy turquoise paint. One of the pics the owner at the time sent me showed a piece of the frame rails near the engine that still had the original paint on them. It also had a tag axle, but another previous owner cut that off.

I'm the new owner of the E257T. The owner ( JIM SWEAZY) had this on EBAY about 6 yrs ago. I wanted this back then but i was recovering from a Heart Attack. What drew me to this is my love for 6-71's, the little screamin DD's. My first one was a pic that John Kilmer ( Dockman) took about a month ago and posted it. The truck is really rough and needed too much work to redo, also it was converted from a Continental to a 6-71. The search for a 257 with a 6-71 is somewhat a rare thing. Alex Smith Trucking from Akron NY wanted to put this in his 257's that had Continentals. He could only get the motor mounts for Cummins from Brockway because they didn't offer the 6-71 in the 257's. So the Engineers @ the "SMITH" garage were told by Alex "Figure how to make um and put um in." It worked and so he was off to converting the remaining continentals with the 6-71's. ( The brown and tan with red frame 257 @ the show is an early Alex Smith conversion to Cummins And from a couple former drivers they loved the pull of the cummins but seemed to break down with them alot and didn't get paid for sitting). When Brockway found this worked they sent their Engineers up to Alex's shop and got the design from him. WHA-LA 257's with factory 6-71's. Now the search for the first factory 6-71 in a 257. I can only date back to 66 with a purchase from Matlack of i think 12. I knew of one other that was a 67 owned by Dick Terpening and a 67 that was @ the show a few years ago. My line sheet is labeled N257 and then crossed out the N and replaced with and E. The 220 Cummins was crossed out and replaced with a 6-71N serial#6A141122. The frame is stamped E257T 144" W.B. serial #65489.The color of the truck was to be painted Turquoise dupont #93-94121 to be purchased by Cortland Which is a color that Ford used in that era. It did start life with a Tag axle and had the west coast vintage 5 hole aluminum wheels alll the way around. Berg spring brakes were ordered as an option (and still on the truck) instead of the disc locked handbrake on the driveline which most had. The Gentleman that ordered the truck through the Miami branch was Sam Gager ( which is something i am working on for early pics and history) Another interesting thing that leads me to believe a first of the E257's was that this line sheet had started 3/14/65, revised again 5/14/65 Still with the 220 Cummins and then the final which say WANTED by 1/27/66 ( titled as a 65) by this time it was an E257 and the changes on the early sheets had been crossed out and filled in by the Famed 6-71 Screamin DD.(which was offered in trucks from the 1930's to the 1990's. Do you know of any other specific motors gas or diesel that were offered for over 50+ yrs?) Now somewhere in history the truck ended up on an Indian Res. in AZ. Somewhere 8-12 yrs. ago it was rescued by a man of the name John Evans (thank you) @ that time it was painted white w/ a big hole in the windsheild and a broken left hand window, it had no headlights in the fenders and had single bucket Peterbilt headlights mounted on the diamond plate on the bumper. John wanted headlights so he contacted Ray Hildreth (Doubledog) who sent him the NOS quad lights. John had it til Jim Sweazy of Glendale AZ. bought it from him(Thank you). These men need to be HIGHLY commended as the Brockways were not a West Coast truck, so not too popular and could have been just another piece of scrap. Now I do have some pics taken from John @ the Reservation and after the headlights were installed, given to me by my good friend Ray H. @ the show on Saturday ( what a nice surprise) I would like to share them with you all but my scanner is down, and tomorrow i will be too. So sorry I am so long winded but I wont be able to type for a few weeks as my shoulder surgery is @ 8am. Hopefully more pics and history and info to come

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Good Numbers and a great show. There must have been over a million miles driven and 200 loads deliverd or picked up in the Ramada Inn parking lot between 9 PM and 12 midnight. I delivered a few myself.Joe D.

I was runnin right with ya Joe. We did put some miles on, and as they used to say "HAULIN THE MAIL"

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Ok, that's a lot more detailed than the history that Jim gave me when he offered me the truck earlier this summer. He told me that it was painted a Chevy color. I have a few pics of the truck that he sent me, it was before it was painted, still had some of the original turquoise on it.


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Screammin DD,
Good luck with the shoulder operation tommorow and a speedy recovery!!!
Glad you enjoyed the pics. That's a pretty cool 257!!

Ray (Double Dog) Hildreth

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Kyle/screemin dd,
wow that was a pullitzer, guess you are making up for the upcoming non use of the arm. our 758 tri-axle was a first timer and e-dogs 359 dump, dcas 761 and clarence ritchies tow truck?paul polizzi's 761 "chuck truck" as well. Sam's huskiteer firetruck also and a few mre i,m sure..........anyway what a great time. Finally got to meet the junkman dan!

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