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 Post subject: Re: Green Cabover headed north on I-81
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:05 am 
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Mike- I was thinking the same thing about the hat. Junkman-you should re-pop them and sell on ebay. I would buy one :). I can't wait for the completion of the u459, hopefully I can get a test drive someday?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:08 pm 
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Brian---Me too !

I hope Paul is more liberal than a truck puller our company helped in the early '80s . After we switched his transmission to an Allison HT 750 CR,installed a Spicer 1241 auxilliary ,and replaced 12 cylinder kits, he roadtested around the Akron area .When he turned around to head back to our shop,I asked him if I could take the wheel and he turned me down . You can see I never quite got over that incident !


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:03 pm 
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Dave and Paul-----Rootin' through some of my Detroit engineering stuff ,I found that the specific engine model for Brockway was 7127-7508 ,whereby Paul's new engine is 7127-7502 which was built for Diamond Reo . Scanning the options,they skip over key items like the flywheel housing and don't start elaborating till the oil pan . So Dave ,does your engine still have the blue ID strip that tells the type #s of the housing ? They may have used the same housing on COE and conventionals.........but maybe not ! And Diamond Reo might have used the same housing,but maybe not .
And to back up my previous suggestion on the governor to replace the hydraulic one that's on it,under governor it shows limiting speed,double weight,for 6-8-12V71 with type# 1318 . So that verifies you can grab one off a scrap engine somewhere .The type # is immaterial,as long as it's off a V engine . I haven't had an opportunity to check my storage trailer to see if I might have one off an engine .


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:24 am 
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Dan, a diamond reo? I will have some time this weekend to take some measurements of the flywheel housing in relation to the engine mount that I found. I should be able to determine based on Daves factory photo If this housing is correct. I dont think there are close variations in it, probably 6 inches or more on the difference of mount locations. I,ll let ya know what I come up with. As far as letting friends drive my trucks, not a problem I like to here the sound of the diesel engine from outside the cab sometime, gives me a different perspective. Thanks for checking this out for me Dan!!


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:26 am 
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Who can post a picture of Dave's factory photo ?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:20 pm 
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here is factory photo


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:10 pm 
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All that motor and only one stick?

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Mike ----- That's all they need for just one gear ...............you know they run just as good backward as forward !


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Yeah, they even sound like a golf cart too! Dan they must have discarded the data tag when it got the Jake Brake but what about Stevens?


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Paul,
If you need any sheet metal for your Cab-over be sure to check with Walker's in Virginia. I think they have enough sheet metal to build a new cab and then some.
Your project looks great!! Looking forward to seeing it.
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Thanks Ray, ironically I spent a ton of time bending forming and welding a lower panel for the drivers side bottom of the cab, then realized I should just buy the pass side and be done with it. Walkers only has drivers side pannels, unless some one has one looks like I have to make pass side as well. Paul


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Dave-----Not understanding what you mean by Stevens .


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Dan another one of these trucks turned up in Texas and the guy Steve and Paul know each other, perhaps his engine has it's data tag. Dave


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Paul,
Truck is looking great- you've come a long way in short time!! She'll be a beast!!
Was thinking about the parts down at Walker's....... could be 400 parts, seems funny they only have driver side stuff in stock. Remember Mack destroying all right side Brock parts after closing them down?......................just a thought


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Dan

You may have met him at Cortland last year. Stephen L (DetroitDiesel1271) is the retired Goast Guard mechanic who was at Cortland with a blue 361 last year. His Dad runs a garage south of Houston and after the show last year found a 459 with a V12 in it in Texas.

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Paul-----Struck out on the housing today , the one I have is similar to yours wth cast iron SAE # 1,and high mounting pads above the crank center line . Did find a governor cover,but not the governor yet .
Time to send out an SOS for some V71 stuff,including a flywheel for 15.5"Spicer clutch and the clutch ,and of course, a housing with low mount pads at 5 and 7 o'clock .


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would the flywheel,bellhousing,etc from a 8V71T work?I've got one with a scored piston I was going to scrap cause nobody around here wants/needs anything off it.it was out of a 4070B IH.

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Yes Mike the 8V71 and 12V71 bell housings interchange. Block side is same for all V71 series. Variables are the diameter of the flywheel opening (SAE #1, 2, 3, etc.) and the position of the motor mount pads. You may have the right one Paul needs. Also housings aluminum or cast as well. 12V probably was cast due to added weight and torque.

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Mike-----It needs to be a cast iron #1 housing with 6 bolt mounting pads at 5 and 7 o'clock . Paul has one mount to verify the hole spacing . Some IHCs may have a #1 housing with a #2 flywheel , I believe for the starter to clear the rear hanger of a front spring . This combination moves the starter about 1.5" closer to the crank and would limit the clutch to a 2 plate 14",good enough for bobtail but the 12 could spin through it easily . Is your engine still in the chassis ?

Also Mike, the turbo kit ,blower,heads and exhaust manifolds are worth a grand to the bus nuts .
They are on various forums .


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Thanks for the help guys, the only thing I can add is the 6 engine mount bolts are 2 rows of three up and down. middle two 2 1/2 inches up from the bottom 2, top2 are 2 1/4 inches up from the middle 2 and rows are spaced 3 inches apart hope you can understand my crappy explanation Mike. Thanks Paul


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