Too make it a 2 stick find shifting tower from old F-Model that had duplex,tri-plex or quadbox.Joe D.

Paul.....IF.... you would be interested in keeping it original....I stumbled on a nice air 4x4 last nite. The rear tranns. support for the original 4x4 was laying on the frame ( still there ?? ) and I thought the shift linkages from the tower were there..............

http://kansascity.craigslist.org/pts/2909324168.html

Sure is fun spending other peoples money LOL

John

Mack made a boatload of F models with 2 sticks,and to be honest,I thought the Triplex in the '67 F model I started out in shifted better than alot of the B models I've driven.

Only trouble with a two stick in a cab over is if the u joints get worn in the linkage the sticks tend to get sloppy enough to hit each other. F models did use it a lot and I sure changed enough joints and bent enough sticks to last a lifetime! Guys that ran them loved them, until things got loose then they would have you work on it until it was just EXACTLY the way they wanted it.

Stopped down to Paul's to check out latest addition. This thread has a nice history of how he acquired it etc. He found a nice donor cab and had it soda blasted by Mike Knecht of Strip-Kleen out of Norwich. Very nice guy and does great work at reasonable prices.

Three more. Looks like it is on the assembly line at the factory!Mike at Strip-Kleen's number is 607-316-0234 if any you are interested!

Looking real good,I better send mine out.

Paul sent me pics of truck he primed today. I have to show him how to post pics one of these days

Friday AM I got to see the truck as pictured in one piece more or less ! Never saw a truck with dual Lubrefiners before ,so that was a first . The Neway arms surprised me ,but made it a class act in it's day . Still puzzled how Paul ever got it up his cowpath driveway ,as my Dodge pickup couldn't get up to the crest of the hill in reverse without spinning out as I tried it 3 times and quit .Then climbed up into the dump bed to see the V 12 . We found the model and serial # on right rear side of block ,right where the airbox drain comes out . He read 12VA 034336 which puts it at late '73 production ,as the first of '74 engines was 12VA 035732 . The model # adds to the intrigue as it was 7127-7502 which tells me it was built as a truck engine to start with ,including an SAE # 1 truck style cast iron flywheel housing . But somebody installed a flywheel typical for an overcenter industrial clutch ,exhaust manifolds that would be typical to an industrial engine ,[except Kenworth W 9's] and the hydraulic governor . So he'll need a few parts to make the engine truck compatible ,so I'll see what I can scrounge up . I had a truck flywheel and 15.5" Spicer clutch but sold it in the Chicago area about 2 years ago . I wish I'd have taken pictures of the frame detail where the rear engine mounts would sit, as possibly a housing switch may be necessary .The engines and the truck model are such dinosaurs ,it's a stimulating challenge to try to rescue it .

Last night Paul sent me pictures with the cab off already,only about 30 hours after I was there . Gotta give the guy a lot of credit ,as his layout is far from ideal ,but indicates he's resourceful ,and probably a helluva mechanic .

Here are the latest pics of Paul's progress.

Pics are a little out of sequence. Junkman-sorry I missed the visit, sounds like you got Paul headed in the right direction..Brian

Thanks for the complement Dan, buy leaving the v12 in the 359 I was able to pull it off the lowboy and up to the shop with a 12 foot piece of pipe I welded a end on it for the pintle hook and the other end goes to the factory slide in tow point. Sat morn I opened up the stoage compartment amd found Pass side engine mount that matches up to a factory foto Dave sent me and I found 2 Neway bushings. The cab was laid out very well with all the conections and electrical right at the hinge point..Speedo, tack, throttle and kill cables had to be snaked through a bit. Very easy hardest part was getting my 12 year old daughter to steer it into the shop as I pulled! Thanks Guys

Nice to see all the puzzle pieces comming together!

Paul I still think this truck will be at Cortland this year, {no pressure} Glad you got to hook up with Dan he has lots of knowledge to share. I forget that not everyone on the Brockway site is not an ATHS member but they just honored Dan with a Golden Achievement award {50+ years in the industry} .

F-700 with a pair....

I have to agree with Dave that it would be sweet to at least seeing it a Cortland as a rolling chassis,cab or no cab . After all,I showed my Detroit powered pickup at the Piston Power show in cleveland last Sept./Oct. as a work in process with no front clip plus 75% of work still undone,and it got as much attention as anything else . People really like to see what things are made of ! And Brian ,I wanted to take care of business first . Don't know how far the backtrack might have been ,so I headed westbound and down...........unloaded and truckin' ! One of these days we'll meet !.................I was in Alfred with a George Kinsella from Unadilla . He was a vet like me ,I believe was in electrical technology when I was in Diesel . I saw him in the Illion area after we graduated ,stopped enroute from Utica to our farm . Never saw or heard from him again .

Looking good,Paul.

Gonna be a great truck Paul! Look how far you have come in just a couple months. As soon as the frame is clean you'll be able to set the new cab.

Hey Dan,
Do you still have the Detroit Diesel hat you were wearing in the award picture? I love that!
Mike

Mike-----That was just an old homemade gimmick...........get a logo patch off a uniform,naturally with some oil stains on it , glue it to your Amish straw hat and you can have one also ! I used to have fun doing instant dog and pony shows when I was a Deeeeeeeeeeeeeetroit peddler . That picture was at Dragway 42 ,about halfway between Cleveland and Columbus . I would either go to Allison in Indianapolis to get a demonstrator ,or a local dealer that might have an Allison equipped truck on the lot ,bring it home and either my wife or some of my 3 daughters would run the wheels off it, and of course offer customers to do the same . Warranty forever,Policy thereafter ! Race on Sunday,sell on Monday !