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 Post subject: Re: Green Cabover headed north on I-81
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:22 am 
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Too make it a 2 stick find shifting tower from old F-Model that had duplex,tri-plex or quadbox.Joe D.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:53 am 
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Paul.....IF.... you would be interested in keeping it original....I stumbled on a nice air 4x4 last nite. The rear tranns. support for the original 4x4 was laying on the frame ( still there ?? ) and I thought the shift linkages from the tower were there..............

http://kansascity.craigslist.org/pts/2909324168.html

Sure is fun spending other peoples money LOL

John


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:49 am 
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Huskiedrive361 wrote:
Two stick in a cab over makes for some very busy shift linkages in the cab tunnel, but it can be done!

Mack made a boatload of F models with 2 sticks,and to be honest,I thought the Triplex in the '67 F model I started out in shifted better than alot of the B models I've driven.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:20 pm 
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Only trouble with a two stick in a cab over is if the u joints get worn in the linkage the sticks tend to get sloppy enough to hit each other. F models did use it a lot and I sure changed enough joints and bent enough sticks to last a lifetime! Guys that ran them loved them, until things got loose then they would have you work on it until it was just EXACTLY the way they wanted it.

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Stopped down to Paul's to check out latest addition. This thread has a nice history of how he acquired it etc. He found a nice donor cab and had it soda blasted by Mike Knecht of Strip-Kleen out of Norwich. Very nice guy and does great work at reasonable prices.


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Three more. Looks like it is on the assembly line at the factory!Mike at Strip-Kleen's number is 607-316-0234 if any you are interested!


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:05 pm 
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Looking real good,I better send mine out.

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Paul sent me pics of truck he primed today. I have to show him how to post pics one of these days


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:01 am 
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Friday AM I got to see the truck as pictured in one piece more or less ! Never saw a truck with dual Lubrefiners before ,so that was a first . The Neway arms surprised me ,but made it a class act in it's day . Still puzzled how Paul ever got it up his cowpath driveway ,as my Dodge pickup couldn't get up to the crest of the hill in reverse without spinning out as I tried it 3 times and quit .Then climbed up into the dump bed to see the V 12 . We found the model and serial # on right rear side of block ,right where the airbox drain comes out . He read 12VA 034336 which puts it at late '73 production ,as the first of '74 engines was 12VA 035732 . The model # adds to the intrigue as it was 7127-7502 which tells me it was built as a truck engine to start with ,including an SAE # 1 truck style cast iron flywheel housing . But somebody installed a flywheel typical for an overcenter industrial clutch ,exhaust manifolds that would be typical to an industrial engine ,[except Kenworth W 9's] and the hydraulic governor . So he'll need a few parts to make the engine truck compatible ,so I'll see what I can scrounge up . I had a truck flywheel and 15.5" Spicer clutch but sold it in the Chicago area about 2 years ago . I wish I'd have taken pictures of the frame detail where the rear engine mounts would sit, as possibly a housing switch may be necessary .The engines and the truck model are such dinosaurs ,it's a stimulating challenge to try to rescue it .

Last night Paul sent me pictures with the cab off already,only about 30 hours after I was there . Gotta give the guy a lot of credit ,as his layout is far from ideal ,but indicates he's resourceful ,and probably a helluva mechanic .


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Here are the latest pics of Paul's progress.


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Pics are a little out of sequence. Junkman-sorry I missed the visit, sounds like you got Paul headed in the right direction..Brian


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Thanks for the complement Dan, buy leaving the v12 in the 359 I was able to pull it off the lowboy and up to the shop with a 12 foot piece of pipe I welded a end on it for the pintle hook and the other end goes to the factory slide in tow point. Sat morn I opened up the stoage compartment amd found Pass side engine mount that matches up to a factory foto Dave sent me and I found 2 Neway bushings. The cab was laid out very well with all the conections and electrical right at the hinge point..Speedo, tack, throttle and kill cables had to be snaked through a bit. Very easy hardest part was getting my 12 year old daughter to steer it into the shop as I pulled! Thanks Guys


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Nice to see all the puzzle pieces comming together!


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Paul I still think this truck will be at Cortland this year, {no pressure} Glad you got to hook up with Dan he has lots of knowledge to share. I forget that not everyone on the Brockway site is not an ATHS member but they just honored Dan with a Golden Achievement award {50+ years in the industry} .


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Too make it a 2 stick find shifting tower from old F-Model that had duplex,tri-plex or quadbox.Joe D.



F-700 with a pair....

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I have to agree with Dave that it would be sweet to at least seeing it a Cortland as a rolling chassis,cab or no cab . After all,I showed my Detroit powered pickup at the Piston Power show in cleveland last Sept./Oct. as a work in process with no front clip plus 75% of work still undone,and it got as much attention as anything else . People really like to see what things are made of ! And Brian ,I wanted to take care of business first . Don't know how far the backtrack might have been ,so I headed westbound and down...........unloaded and truckin' ! One of these days we'll meet !.................I was in Alfred with a George Kinsella from Unadilla . He was a vet like me ,I believe was in electrical technology when I was in Diesel . I saw him in the Illion area after we graduated ,stopped enroute from Utica to our farm . Never saw or heard from him again .


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Looking good,Paul.

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Gonna be a great truck Paul! Look how far you have come in just a couple months. As soon as the frame is clean you'll be able to set the new cab.

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Hey Dan,
Do you still have the Detroit Diesel hat you were wearing in the award picture? I love that!
Mike

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Mike-----That was just an old homemade gimmick...........get a logo patch off a uniform,naturally with some oil stains on it , glue it to your Amish straw hat and you can have one also ! I used to have fun doing instant dog and pony shows when I was a Deeeeeeeeeeeeeetroit peddler . That picture was at Dragway 42 ,about halfway between Cleveland and Columbus . I would either go to Allison in Indianapolis to get a demonstrator ,or a local dealer that might have an Allison equipped truck on the lot ,bring it home and either my wife or some of my 3 daughters would run the wheels off it, and of course offer customers to do the same . Warranty forever,Policy thereafter ! Race on Sunday,sell on Monday !


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